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posted March 4, 2013 09:38AM
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Based lang sa na observe ko sa lipunan natin ngayon, marami na ang hiwalay na mag asawa at may kani-kaniyang kinakasama na at ibang pamilya. Meron din mga asawa na nagtitiis na lang na pakisamahan ang kabiyak kahit na hindi na magkasundo. Meron naman tayong Legal Separation at Annulment dito pero hindi ganuna kadali na makakuha ng desisyon ng korte na pabor sa Legal Separation or Annulment at napakamahal pa. Personally, ako gusto ko na magkaroon na ng divorce dito sa ating bansa. Hindi naman ako gustong makipaghiwalay sa asawa ko. Ito ay ayon sa nakikita ko sa ating lipunan ngayon. Kayo, gusto nyo ba na may divorce?

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posted March 4, 2013 09:49AM
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Yes. Just about time.

 

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posted March 4, 2013 10:35AM
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For the true believers:

Matthew 19:8

New International Version (©1984)
Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning.

New Living Translation (©2007)
Jesus replied, "Moses permitted divorce only as a concession to your hard hearts, but it was not what God had originally intended.

English Standard Version (©2001)
He said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
He said to them, "Because of your hardness of heart Moses permitted you to divorce your wives; but from the beginning it has not been this way.

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
He told them, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because of the hardness of your hearts. But it was not like that from the beginning.

International Standard Version (©2012)
He told them, "It was because of your hardness of heart that Moses allowed you to divorce your wives. But from the beginning it was not this way.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
He said to them, “Moses, confronting the callousness of your heart, let you divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so.”

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Jesus answered them, "Moses allowed you to divorce your wives because you're heartless. It was never this way in the beginning.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
He said unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts allowed you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

American King James Version
He said to them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

American Standard Version
He saith unto them, Moses for your hardness of heart suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it hath not been so.

Douay-Rheims Bible
He saith to them: Because Moses by reason of the hardness of your heart permitted you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

Darby Bible Translation
He says to them, Moses, in view of your hardheartedness, allowed you to put away your wives; but from the beginning it was not thus.

English Revised Version
He saith unto them, Moses for your hardness of heart suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it hath not been so.

Webster's Bible Translation
He saith to them, Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

Weymouth New Testament


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posted March 6, 2013 08:28PM
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marami pang pagdadaanan na butas ng karayom yan!
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posted March 6, 2013 08:37PM
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dappy posted on March 6, 2013 09:28PM
marami pang pagdadaanan na butas ng karayom yan!


Yung letter D ba sa mug mo stands for Dappy, Divorce or Dear? (Coffee na lang dear.)  

 

Minsan di mo na talaga alam ang susundin.... yung nakasaad sa Bibliya... o yung sa tingin mo ay nararapat sa sitwasyon mo. 


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posted March 6, 2013 08:42PM
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great2find posted on March 6, 2013 09:37PM
dappy posted on March 6, 2013 09:28PM
marami pang pagdadaanan na butas ng karayom yan!


Yung letter D ba sa mug mo stands for Dappy, Divorce or Dear? (Coffee na lang dear.)  

 

Minsan di mo na talaga alam ang susundin.... yung nakasaad sa Bibliya... o yung sa tingin mo ay nararapat sa sitwasyon mo. 


yang D na yan ay Daps...short  for dappy..pwede ding dessert..:)

sa panahon kasi natin may mga bagay na tayo ang nasusunod pero di ibig sabihin tama na yon..

ang tama pa din eh ang nakasulat sa bible..ang sino man pinagsama ng Diyos di maaring paghiwalayin ng tao..

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posted March 7, 2013 06:51AM
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great2find posted on March 6, 2013 09:37PM
dappy posted on March 6, 2013 09:28PM
marami pang pagdadaanan na butas ng karayom yan!


Yung letter D ba sa mug mo stands for Dappy, Divorce or Dear? (Coffee na lang dear.)  

 

Minsan di mo na talaga alam ang susundin.... yung nakasaad sa Bibliya... o yung sa tingin mo ay nararapat sa sitwasyon mo. 


Respectfully bro., kasi kung halimbawa ang sitwasyon po natin ay nangangalingan ng pera at walang wala po tayo, okay ba yung magnakaw? The bible say, "thou shalt not steal". O di kaya, kung kapanahunan po ng mrs. natin at di tayo puwedeng pagbigyan o may malubhang sakit, tama po ba na kaliwain natin si Mrs. upang makapagparaos lang tayo? The bible says, "thou shalt not commit adultery". Ito lang po ang take ko sa situational example na binigay po nyo. Pero naintindihan ko din na may mga abusive relationships. Dapat lang lutasin ang problema kung nais ng magasawa magpatuloy sa samahan nila. Kaya lang, oftentimes, the marriage is placed on the chopping block instead of solving the problem....and that's sad. GBU


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posted March 7, 2013 07:00AM
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kung may Divorce lang 3 yrs ago, siguro, diborsyado na ako..... kaso, wala, so we decided to just stay together for the killer testing period.... Now, our marriage is stronger than ever, sweeter than ever, more open communication than ever... my point is, pag meron divorce, there is a way out of a miserable marriage at the present time... kumbaga, pag hinog pa ang sugat, you can easily decide and file for divorce immediately... pero pag walang Divorce, you can have time to heal those wounds, make adjustments, have time again for acceptance and forgiveness, and will remain as married ... kumbaga, for richer or for poor, in sickness and in health...

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posted March 7, 2013 07:11AM
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bradpete69 posted on March 7, 2013 08:00AM
kung may Divorce lang 3 yrs ago, siguro, diborsyado na ako..... kaso, wala, so we decided to just stay together for the killer testing period.... Now, our marriage is stronger than ever, sweeter than ever, more open communication than ever... my point is, pag meron divorce, there is a way out of a miserable marriage at the present time... kumbaga, pag hinog pa ang sugat, you can easily decide and file for divorce immediately... pero pag walang Divorce, you can have time to heal those wounds, make adjustments, have time again for acceptance and forgiveness, and will remain as married ... kumbaga, for richer or for poor, in sickness and in health...


It really takes commitment on both parties to make the relationship work. Both of you have matured in your relationship and your marriage is an example to many couples who are struggling in today's world. Thanks for your testimony!

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posted March 7, 2013 08:01AM
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bradpete69 posted on March 7, 2013 08:00AM
kung may Divorce lang 3 yrs ago, siguro, diborsyado na ako..... kaso, wala, so we decided to just stay together for the killer testing period.... Now, our marriage is stronger than ever, sweeter than ever, more open communication than ever... my point is, pag meron divorce, there is a way out of a miserable marriage at the present time... kumbaga, pag hinog pa ang sugat, you can easily decide and file for divorce immediately... pero pag walang Divorce, you can have time to heal those wounds, make adjustments, have time again for acceptance and forgiveness, and will remain as married ... kumbaga, for richer or for poor, in sickness and in health...


@brad: That's great and good for both of you and your dear better half.

But what if upon deciding together things didn't work out still?

What if things have just gotten worse instead?

Hindsight is a good thing and it is indeed good that this had worked for you.

But remember, there are thousands of couple

who may not just be as successful as you, two.

 

Personally, in my opinion, one of the best arguments of it is

if divorce is not really helping and is not a solution

then those countries who have it

have abolished it long time ago.

 


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posted March 7, 2013 08:25AM
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bradpete69 posted on March 7, 2013 08:00AM
kung may Divorce lang 3 yrs ago, siguro, diborsyado na ako..... kaso, wala, so we decided to just stay together for the killer testing period.... Now, our marriage is stronger than ever, sweeter than ever, more open communication than ever... my point is, pag meron divorce, there is a way out of a miserable marriage at the present time... kumbaga, pag hinog pa ang sugat, you can easily decide and file for divorce immediately... pero pag walang Divorce, you can have time to heal those wounds, make adjustments, have time again for acceptance and forgiveness, and will remain as married ... kumbaga, for richer or for poor, in sickness and in health...


Nagbago yung pananaw ko sa divorce dahil sa testimonial mo.. You have bring out something good from this topic, galing pa sa personal experience mo akalain mo yun??:)

When we are amidst the difficult times in our lives most of us of course would want to get out of the situation as quickly as we could. Matigas nga daw kasi ang ulo natin ayaw natin matuto.. Dapat pala hinaharap ang problema. Kailangan lang pala panahon para mag-grow o mag mature ng sabay. Someday after all that you've gone through.. akala mo nung una hindi mo kakayanin, kaya mo naman pala.


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posted March 7, 2013 10:17AM
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in other countries, pag meron ng Divorce, marriage is not that serious for most of them... kumbaga, lets get married my love , pero in hindsight, you are confident that if the marriage doesn't work out, there's always Divorce as an escape route... so hindi na te taken seriously ang sanctity ng marriage. parang testing or laro laro na lang... just ask Kim Kardashian and company... hehehe
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posted March 7, 2013 10:45AM
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@brad:

I don't want to get into argument here.

But isn't that statement really a overrated?

Beacuse if that statement of yours shall be taken cosiderably then it could only mean that marriage without divorce  here in our country is much better than a marriage with divorce from other countries.

 

Well, on the matter with Kim Kardashian,

Kim kardashian is Kim Kardashian.

But there are many others as well who have consumated their marriages and last a while as well

like in the case of goldie hawn and kurt russel for one. I believe they are still together although not married.

 

 

 

On the same note,

If we allow divorce in this country

we should expect that just like in any laws there are people who will use it to their advantage.

And it's true, divorce shall look attractive for both - those with good intentions and those who just want to escape their present situation.

And divorce will be used a lot as an escape route - no doubt about that.

But what about the others who need divorce for a greater cause rather than just escaping.

 

I think if we just open our eyes and we get past through our subjectivity to the church

and decide upon the actual situation that is happening here in the country

and think and act objectively

I think to have a divorce law is about time.

 


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posted March 7, 2013 02:34PM
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I agree with absindex. It really depends upon the situation. Even if we would have a Divorce law here, it is still dependent upon the couple if they would pursue it to end their marriage. It is something that should be taken seriously and not just an escape goat. Even if we do not have this law here, we already have Annulment which also dissolves a marriage after court order. As we can see from the news, there were rich and famous couples who ended their marriage after just a simple misunderstanding.  So our laws are not after all that obedient to the laws in the bible.

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posted March 7, 2013 03:19PM
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trendycherrie posted on March 7, 2013 03:34PM

I agree with absindex. It really depends upon the situation. Even if we would have a Divorce law here, it is still dependent upon the couple if they would pursue it to end their marriage. It is something that should be taken seriously and not just an escape goat. Even if we do not have this law here, we already have Annulment which also dissolves a marriage after court order. As we can see from the news, there were rich and famous couples who ended their marriage after just a simple misunderstanding.  So our laws are not after all that obedient to the laws in the bible.


Are we to be obedient to God's law or to the law of the land or even to our own carnal desires? That really depends on our spirituality, isn't it?

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posted March 7, 2013 03:29PM
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Don't get me wrong guys.... honestly, am for the passing of the Divorce Law ... hindi sarado isipan ko... I just hope that all of us are mature enough to apply the Law in a manner where it will not degrade the sanctity of marriage... just like countries that allows divorce, meron nag-papakasal lang ng 15 hours, 72 days, 3 years..
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posted March 7, 2013 03:40PM
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no, i don't think that divorce would do any good. Filipinos are known to be family oriented, we stick together and have a very strong bond which makes as unique among other countries. with that, i believe the problem is not divorce but moreover the couple who simply just give up on the relationship or marriage. marriage is not just a simple piece of paper written in black and white law between the two adult, why marry if you are not sure in the first place
aside from it's a waste of money and resources, families would greatly be affected with broken relationships, and many children would grow up in a broken family which is not a good thing for them to grow. if the previews generations did work out with the long term commitment in marriage why not today
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posted March 7, 2013 03:42PM
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bradpete69 posted on March 7, 2013 04:29PM
Don't get me wrong guys.... honestly, am for the passing of the Divorce Law ... hindi sarado isipan ko... I just hope that all of us are mature enough to apply the Law in a manner where it will not degrade the sanctity of marriage... just like countries that allows divorce, meron nag-papakasal lang ng 15 hours, 72 days, 3 years..


I get your point brad and honestly I am glad about your situation.

To pass the law of divorce here is like also opening a sort of pandoras box.

magagamit at magagamit talaga yan sa advantages nun mga taong may dishonest intention or scheme.

Maybe if in the case divorce law gets passed here - higpitan na lang yun measures and grounds.

Kumbaga i-base dun sa kung ano yun nararapat na applicable dito sa atin mismo.

It could be the provisions be stricter like yun sinasabi mo na 15 hours married or even a year wag allow na mag divorce.

 

The point is ala pa ngang divorce ang dami na hiwalay di ba?

So if without divorce that allows the couple to seperate legally although not in the eyes of god as it is supposed to be.

Sino ang magmumukhang mas makasalanan sa mata ng tao at kahit sa mata ng diyos?

A. Yun couple na nag divorce na at may kinakasama ng iba pareho.

B. Yun couple na mag asawa pa din pero pareho ng may kanya kanya kinakasama iba.

 

Of course the above is just one isolated reason to defend divorce apart from a few more pressing reason like yun asawa sinasaktan na physically, etc.. etc..

 

Besides does anyone think na kung may divorce na, people would even have the money or  do the effort to file for it?

If napapansin nyo na ang society marital problems is mostly centered dun sa mga kababayan natin na nasa class D and E, please correct me if Im wrong but that's how I see it.

And these are the same people who the RH Bill was intended to.

 

 


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posted March 7, 2013 06:21PM
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Absindex I feel you hahahahaha

but seriously, it doesn't always lie to the person involve like what you were stating na parang it's all the other person's fault... but I think you should also consider the justice system that we have here in our country.

 


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posted March 7, 2013 06:23PM
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yes, kailangan ng divorce sa pilipinas :)
ibat ibang case naman yan.

example : Nadiscover mo niloloko ka..

sinasaktan ka..

pineperahan ka..

HIWALAYAN NA YAN!
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posted March 7, 2013 06:53PM
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jmxstudiosnet posted on March 7, 2013 07:21PM

Absindex I feel you hahahahaha

but seriously, it doesn't always lie to the person involve like what you were stating na parang it's all the other person's fault... but I think you should also consider the justice system that we have here in our country.

 


well, divorce here in the country can be fashioned out and could be a different case.

Like kunware nag file ka ng divorce.

i-eevaluate muna yun case nyo kung may grounds ba. magkaroon ng preliminary hearing.

Now, next step is kung ma-prove na meeting all the requirement and prerequisites,

bibigyan ng korte ng 6 months to 1 year moratorium yun marriage contract nyo meaning suspended muna yun validity ng contract but not totally void so you can't hurry up getting hitched by someone or marrying your neighbor.

so within that period of 6 months to 1 year maybe it is enough time to find out kung gusto nyo ba pareho ng better half mo yun divorce.

You can go through counselling if possible and/or as ordered by the court. then  i-work out yun marriage and who knows you might still want to give it both a go and don't go through the divorce.

Now if all things are impossible then the court can now rule on the merit of the case.

Finally the divorce is granted.

 

 

Let's explore all the possibilities and the preferences for a greater cause at hindi lang yun for the cause of the church or even the bible.

Bible will always be the bible.

Remember how the same church centuries ago convicted and condemn galileo for nearly 400 years and the few likes of him who the church thought was wrong  and yet the church made a mistake was indeed very wrong in their judgment of the guy.

 

Now, for argument's sake here,

how the same church who had condemned galileo could ever tell

that a certain person's decision to file for divorce is also wrong?

 

Do we have to wait for another 400 years to say

that the decision of that certain person to file a divorce could have been actually right.

 

And besides divorce is not the end of it all

once divorced you can always re-marry each other

and myabe, just maybe love can be lovelier the second time around as the saying goes.

 

 

"grabe...napagod ako dun sa sinabe ku ang haba." - snow


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