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posted January 28, 2010 10:33PM
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Guys, naniniwala ba kayo na ang sinungaling ay kapatid ng magnanakaw?

My Encarta Dictionary has this to say about the word STEAL:

vt succeed at unexpectedly: to win or succeed at something unexpectedly, luckily, or dishonestly at the expense of another or others (informal)

Microsoft® Encarta® Reference Library 2005. © 1993-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


I can prove that Noynoy is a dishonest person and a liar. So, in effect, he's already a thief.

First, he lied when he said he has no plans to run before Cory's death.

Second, he used gimmickry when he said he'll seek guidance in Pink Sisters Convent when in fact, there's already an agreement between him and Mar Roxas, who had already backed-out from the presidential derby earlier in the day.

Third, he is fooling the people when he said he will prosecute GMA and send her to jail for her corruption, when he knew for a fact that it is the judiciary's job to try and convict lawbreakers, not the president.

Fourth, he said in his webpage in the Senate website that there are already enough laws and there is no need to pass more laws. It is done to justify his incompetence as a senator and a congressman because he failed to produce even a single law.

What do you think, Noynoyistas?

Note: I'm referring to LYING & STEALING, per se.

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posted January 29, 2010 04:14AM
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kawawa naman ang thread na to walang nag po post, yang argumento mo na sinungaling - lahat ng tao amenable dyan di lang si Noy, nakapagsinungaling tayo one point in our life, pero kung i-equate mo ang nagsinungaling sa magnanakaw iba yan. Ikaw ba eh di nagsinungaling sa tanang buhay mo, kung nagsinungaling ka ba, eh ayon sa yo magnanakaw ka ba?
sabi naman sa yo, you are only incriminating yourself. di ka ba nagsinungaling? hehehe

"Bad Spirits have always find great opposition from Moral Minds" leeramtan

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posted January 29, 2010 04:24AM
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danielperez501 posted on January 28, 2010 11:33PM
Guys, naniniwala ba kayo na ang sinungaling ay kapatid ng magnanakaw?

My Encarta Dictionary has this to say about the word STEAL:

vt succeed at unexpectedly: to win or succeed at something unexpectedly, luckily, or dishonestly at the expense of another or others (informal)

Microsoft® Encarta® Reference Library 2005. © 1993-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


I can prove that Noynoy is a dishonest person and a liar. So, in effect, he's already a thief.

First, he lied when he said he has no plans to run before Cory's death.

Second, he used gimmickry when he said he'll seek guidance in Pink Sisters Convent when in fact, there's already an agreement between him and Mar Roxas, who had already backed-out from the presidential derby earlier in the day.

Third, he is fooling the people when he said he will prosecute GMA and send her to jail for her corruption, when he knew for a fact that it is the judiciary's job to try and convict lawbreakers, not the president.

Fourth, he said in his webpage in the Senate website that there are already enough laws and there is no need to pass more laws. It is done to justify his incompetence as a senator and a congressman because he failed to produce even a single law.

What do you think, Noynoyistas?

ang sinungaling ay kapatid ng magnanakaw? eh di ang magnanakaw ay hindi si noynoy kasi mahirap mong maging kapatid ang sarili mo, di ba?
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posted January 29, 2010 04:32AM
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bandwagon posted on January 29, 2010 05:24AM
ang sinungaling ay kapatid ng magnanakaw? eh di ang magnanakaw ay hindi si noynoy kasi mahirap mong maging kapatid ang sarili mo, di ba?

<hahaha natawa naman ako dun, oo nga ano? yan very logical yan, di assumption yan, hehehe>
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posted January 29, 2010 08:38AM
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leeramtan posted on January 29, 2010 05:14AM
kawawa naman ang thread na to walang nag po post, yang argumento mo na sinungaling - lahat ng tao amenable dyan di lang si Noy, nakapagsinungaling tayo one point in our life, pero kung i-equate mo ang nagsinungaling sa magnanakaw iba yan. Ikaw ba eh di nagsinungaling sa tanang buhay mo, kung nagsinungaling ka ba, eh ayon sa yo magnanakaw ka ba?
sabi naman sa yo, you are only incriminating yourself. di ka ba nagsinungaling? hehehe

"Bad Spirits have always find great opposition from Moral Minds" leeramtan

See, you are willing to turn a blind eye again to your candidate but very "praning" to others. At least, hindi ako nagmamalinis para lamang maka-uto ng tao....hehehe!

If lying is moral, then let me be a bad spirit.

If killing people out of greed is moral, then let me be a bad spirit.

If fooling people just to gain votes is moral, then let me be a bad spirit.


@ bandwagon

Tama ka brod, imposibleng maging kapatid mo ang sarili mo. But I'm referring to LYING & STEALING, per se. Kailangan ko pa palang liwanagin yun? Sorry po....
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posted January 31, 2010 05:54PM
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bro, medyo mabigat kasi yung paratang mo. i am not pro-noynoy, don't get me wrong. i haven't decided yet on whom to vote and campaign for.

yung mga nagsisinungaling na Politiko, lahat yan mga yan guilty. sino ba ang hinid? post it here kung may kakilala ka?

the best thing is, we should look at a candidate's platform, mas maganda kasi na doon sila sukatin.

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posted January 31, 2010 06:11PM
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Wrong post yata itong Forum. Dapat sa ibang category ito. base sa title.

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posted January 31, 2010 07:45PM
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bandwagon posted on January 31, 2010 06:54PM
bro, medyo mabigat kasi yung paratang mo. i am not pro-noynoy, don't get me wrong. i haven't decided yet on whom to vote and campaign for.

yung mga nagsisinungaling na Politiko, lahat yan mga yan guilty. sino ba ang hinid? post it here kung may kakilala ka?

the best thing is, we should look at a candidate's platform, mas maganda kasi na doon sila sukatin.


That's what I'm advocating all along, sir. That we elevate the discussions on a positive level. That we scrutinize the candidates based on their qualifications and achievements. Kaso, marami diyan ang kung makaparatang, akala mo siguradong-sigurado. Tapos, ang tingin nila kay Noynoy ay isang santo.

Kesyo honest daw, ayan, I listed some reasons that he's lying and fooling the people all this time. I cannot name a single person that haven't lied. But at least, hindi sila nagmamalinis.

By the way, hindi ba bawal dito sa forum ang mga nang-aasar lang at namemersonal? Don't you think these people are just instigating something that might lead to unnecessary remarks from other members?

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posted January 31, 2010 07:50PM
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I'm thinking about that because i'm not sure at all.
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posted January 31, 2010 07:58PM
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dest posted on January 31, 2010 07:11PM
Wrong post yata itong Forum. Dapat sa ibang category ito. base sa title.

Yes....... naging Political topic yata.... he he he.   Pero ok lang din naman... napapanahon para pag usapan.
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posted January 31, 2010 07:58PM
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danielperez501 posted on January 31, 2010 08:45PM
bandwagon posted on January 31, 2010 06:54PM
bro, medyo mabigat kasi yung paratang mo. i am not pro-noynoy, don't get me wrong. i haven't decided yet on whom to vote and campaign for.

yung mga nagsisinungaling na Politiko, lahat yan mga yan guilty. sino ba ang hinid? post it here kung may kakilala ka?

the best thing is, we should look at a candidate's platform, mas maganda kasi na doon sila sukatin.


That's what I'm advocating all along, sir. That we elevate the discussions on a positive level. That we scrutinize the candidates based on their qualifications and achievements. Kaso, marami diyan ang kung makaparatang, akala mo siguradong-sigurado. Tapos, ang tingin nila kay Noynoy ay isang santo.

Kesyo honest daw, ayan, I listed some reasons that he's lying and fooling the people all this time. I cannot name a single person that haven't lied. But at least, hindi sila nagmamalinis.

By the way, hindi ba bawal dito sa forum ang mga nang-aasar lang at namemersonal? Don't you think this people are just instigating something that might lead to unnecessary remarks from other members?

tama ka! ang sinungaling ay kapatid ng magnanakaw. sino ba ang magnanakaw? at sino ang sinungaling hehehe. parang natumbok mo ang mga kapartido mo dito ah hehehe....

linawin ko ha...

ang tawag sa administrasyon eh "corrupt" tama? so meaning magnanakaw. sino ngayon ang kapatid ng administrasyon? hhmm....

eh yung nagtatanggol sa magkapatid? ano tawag mo dun?

eh di pinaka-panganay na kapatid hehehe... galing mo ah.

so kilala mo na kung sino ang pinakamalala? now, ano na ang meron sa tagapagtanggol? ... hmm palagay ko both hehehe :)

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posted January 31, 2010 08:04PM
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ok ok ok...well sa tingin ko'y lahat sila may Deperensya...(tao lang sila) e papaano ba...pangit naman seguro kung sa sabihin natin na wagnalang Bumoto...e anong say mo?kung d' tayo Buboto'y may Mananalo parin...sige...mag Post tayo ng Kung Sino ang "Maraming Boto'y siyang bobotohin natin lahat"...ok ba sa inyo yon?...
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posted January 31, 2010 08:21PM
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jegski posted on January 31, 2010 08:58PM
danielperez501 posted on January 31, 2010 08:45PM
bandwagon posted on January 31, 2010 06:54PM
bro, medyo mabigat kasi yung paratang mo. i am not pro-noynoy, don't get me wrong. i haven't decided yet on whom to vote and campaign for.

yung mga nagsisinungaling na Politiko, lahat yan mga yan guilty. sino ba ang hinid? post it here kung may kakilala ka?

the best thing is, we should look at a candidate's platform, mas maganda kasi na doon sila sukatin.


That's what I'm advocating all along, sir. That we elevate the discussions on a positive level. That we scrutinize the candidates based on their qualifications and achievements. Kaso, marami diyan ang kung makaparatang, akala mo siguradong-sigurado. Tapos, ang tingin nila kay Noynoy ay isang santo.

Kesyo honest daw, ayan, I listed some reasons that he's lying and fooling the people all this time. I cannot name a single person that haven't lied. But at least, hindi sila nagmamalinis.

By the way, hindi ba bawal dito sa forum ang mga nang-aasar lang at namemersonal? Don't you think this people are just instigating something that might lead to unnecessary remarks from other members?

tama ka! ang sinungaling ay kapatid ng magnanakaw. sino ba ang magnanakaw? at sino ang sinungaling hehehe. parang natumbok mo ang mga kapartido mo dito ah hehehe....

linawin ko ha...

ang tawag sa administrasyon eh "corrupt" tama? so meaning magnanakaw. sino ngayon ang kapatid ng administrasyon? hhmm....

eh yung nagtatanggol sa magkapatid? ano tawag mo dun?

eh di pinaka-panganay na kapatid hehehe... galing mo ah.

so kilala mo na kung sino ang pinakamalala? now, ano na ang meron sa tagapagtanggol? ... hmm palagay ko both hehehe :)

Si Gibo ang ina-advocate ko dahil siya ang kandidato at hindi si GMA.

Bakit hindi mo diretsahin ang gusto mong sabihin sa akin? I want to hear it straight...
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posted January 31, 2010 10:19PM
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kc30238 posted on January 31, 2010 09:04PM
ok ok ok...well sa tingin ko'y lahat sila may Deperensya...(tao lang sila) e papaano ba...pangit naman seguro kung sa sabihin natin na wagnalang Bumoto...e anong say mo?kung d' tayo Buboto'y may Mananalo parin...sige...mag Post tayo ng Kung Sino ang "Maraming Boto'y siyang bobotohin natin lahat"...ok ba sa inyo yon?...


Dyan ka bomoto, mock election dito sa sulit
http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+topic/id/19889/2010+Presidential+Sulit+Mock+Election

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posted January 31, 2010 10:22PM
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yes ang sinungaling ay kapatid ng magnanakaw dami nakaencounter na lagi nga nagsisingaling may karma kaya yun
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posted January 31, 2010 10:25PM
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akala ko mag asawa sila, magkapatid pala!
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posted January 31, 2010 10:26PM
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siguro.. kasi pag nag nakaw ka pag tinanung ka kung ikaw ba nang nakaw.. sinungaling kana.. hehehe
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posted February 1, 2010 01:51AM
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danielperez501 posted on January 31, 2010 08:45PM
bandwagon posted on January 31, 2010 06:54PM
bro, medyo mabigat kasi yung paratang mo. i am not pro-noynoy, don't get me wrong. i haven't decided yet on whom to vote and campaign for.

yung mga nagsisinungaling na Politiko, lahat yan mga yan guilty. sino ba ang hinid? post it here kung may kakilala ka?

the best thing is, we should look at a candidate's platform, mas maganda kasi na doon sila sukatin.


That's what I'm advocating all along, sir. That we elevate the discussions on a positive level. That we scrutinize the candidates based on their qualifications and achievements. Kaso, marami diyan ang kung makaparatang, akala mo siguradong-sigurado. Tapos, ang tingin nila kay Noynoy ay isang santo.

Kesyo honest daw, ayan, I listed some reasons that he's lying and fooling the people all this time. I cannot name a single person that haven't lied. But at least, hindi sila nagmamalinis.

By the way, hindi ba bawal dito sa forum ang mga nang-aasar lang at namemersonal? Don't you think these people are just instigating something that might lead to unnecessary remarks from other members?

so you were thinking that your post is positive enough from the title itself? hhmm so intriguing and provoking arguments that lead to division among men. ....inclined to favor one group or view or opinion over alternatives.
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posted February 1, 2010 06:40AM
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Sino kaya ang sinungaling:

By Solita Collas-Monsod
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 01:06:00 01/30/2010

WHILE the Senate is declaring a moratorium on the discussion of the ethics case against Sen. Manny Villar, here are some incontrovertible facts, presented in Q & A form. The source of the information is also given.

Question: What roadway projects are the subject matter of the Villar ethics controversy? Answer: 1. The Manila Cavite Toll Expressway Project (MCTEP), the original C-5 south extension project, linking SLEX with the Coastal Road; 2. the DPWH C-5 Extension project (CX-5), which together with 3. the Las Piñas-Parañaque Link Project (LPPLP), also links SLEX with the Coastal Road. Source: Senate Report (SR) 780.

Q: Is the CX-5/LPPLP project a realignment, as Sen. Jamby Madrigal describes it, or has there been no realignment, as Senator Villar’s allies insist? A: Technically there has been no realignment, because these are two separate roads linking C-5 from SLEX to the Coastal Road. But they are very close together and, in some areas, overlap, as can be ascertained from a site map. Source: interactive map available at www.gmanews.tv

Q: Are there any differences between the MCTEP and the CX-5/LPPLP? A: Yes. 1. The MCTEP is a joint-venture project between the government and a private Malaysian partner, with the government’s financial exposure limited to P2.68 billion for the purchase of the road right-of-way; the private partner is responsible for the construction of the project, for which tolls will be charged. The CX-5/LPPLP is a toll-free, wholly-financed government project costing P6.96 billion; 2. The CX-5/LPPLP is longer than the MCTEP, its extra length essentially covering the LPPLP portion; 3. The CX-5/LPPLP passes through more Villar properties than the MCTEP. Source: DPWH project documents cited as Exhibits A, B and TTTT in SR 780; site map from www.gmanews.tv.

Q: How large are the Villar company landholdings in the immediate vicinity of the questioned road projects? A: At least 50-52 hectares: 40 hectares in the vicinity of the LPPLP; 10-12 hectares in the area between Sucat Road and Multinational Avenue. Source: testimony of Anastacio Adriano Jr., senior vice president and general manager, chief operating officer of Adelfa Properties Inc. and other Villar-owned companies up to 2008; self-styled consultant and political officer of Senator Villar since August 2008. Nota bene: Senate employment records do not include his name. Nota bene: it is not clear whether the 50-52 hectares mentioned above include properties cited in SR 780—roughly 10 hectares in area—to be developed by Villar companies in joint venture with their owners.

Q: What is the involvement of Villar in CX-5 and LPPLP? A: 1. The Project Feasibility Study of the DPWH for CX-5 states: “The conceptualization of and the initial release of funds for the CX-5 Project was initiated by Sen. Manuel Villar whose same efforts also paved the way for the funding of the Las Piñas-Parañaque Link Road [LPPLP]”; 2. Various insertions and amendments (Priority Development Assistance Fund, read pork barrel) in the national government budget over the years 2002-2008 for CX-5 and LPPLP; 3. Adriano (cited above), in the office of and presence of Villar, dictating to the director general of the Senate’s Legislative Budget Research and Monitoring Office (LBRMO) Villar’s proposed amendments to the 2008 budget, including a P400-million appropriation for the CX-5. Source: documents submitted by DPWH, lawyer Yolanda Doblon of the LBRMO, testimony of both Doblon and Adriano, cited in SR 780.

Q: Were the Villar properties bought for road right-of-way overpriced? A: SR 780 argues for the affirmative; PSR 1472 (the resolution signed by Villar and his allies exonerating him from all charges) argues for the negative. This calls for a conclusion of the reader. And to help that along, I have—based on the documented prices and acreage of the lands purchased in connection with the LPPLP—computed the weighted average prices that were paid for the Villar and related properties, and those paid for the non-Villar properties. The results: The Villar/related properties, comprising 23,455 square meters, were bought for P168.1 million. The non-Villar properties, comprising 11,685 square meters, were bought for P22 million. That comes to a weighted average of P7,168 per square meter for Villar’s properties, and P1,880 per square meter for the non-Villar properties. That has to be a statistically significant difference.

Given the above facts—which no one can contest, since they are based on official documents, and not on a he-says-she-says set of assertions—it has to be reasonable to conclude:

1. Since there was already an ongoing project (the MCTEP) linking C-5 to the Coastal Road, it was totally unnecessary to build a second one.

2. Which means that there was a waste of scarce resources. Instead of using only P2.6 billion of government funds for the first project, the government had to spend an additional P6.9 billion for the second, which practically duplicated the first, except for the additional length which happily for Senator Villar, traversed his properties.

3. This unnecessary, wasteful project was certainly Villar’s idea. It is specious to argue that it is a DPWH project. As the DPWH feasibility study states (in black and white), both the CX-5 and the LPPLP were conceived and initially funded by Villar.

4. Villar benefited tremendously from the second project. Certainly, his companies were paid significantly more per square meter for the road right of way (which were mostly bought from him). But that pales into insignificance compared with the tremendous increase in the values of his real estate holdings in the area—at least 50-52 hectares.

Is he blameless? Is the Pope protestant?

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posted February 2, 2010 09:30AM
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danielperez501 posted on January 31, 2010 08:45PM
bandwagon posted on January 31, 2010 06:54PM
bro, medyo mabigat kasi yung paratang mo. i am not pro-noynoy, don't get me wrong. i haven't decided yet on whom to vote and campaign for.

yung mga nagsisinungaling na Politiko, lahat yan mga yan guilty. sino ba ang hinid? post it here kung may kakilala ka?

the best thing is, we should look at a candidate's platform, mas maganda kasi na doon sila sukatin.


That's what I'm advocating all along, sir. That we elevate the discussions on a positive level. That we scrutinize the candidates based on their qualifications and achievements. Kaso, marami diyan ang kung makaparatang, akala mo siguradong-sigurado. Tapos, ang tingin nila kay Noynoy ay isang santo.

Kesyo honest daw, ayan, I listed some reasons that he's lying and fooling the people all this time. I cannot name a single person that haven't lied. But at least, hindi sila nagmamalinis.

By the way, hindi ba bawal dito sa forum ang mga nang-aasar lang at namemersonal? Don't you think these people are just instigating something that might lead to unnecessary remarks from other members?

If you are really advocating that all along, you should have posted the qualifications and achievements of the candidates. Tapos, dun natin sila sukatin. Mas positive kasi yun, kaysa sabihan mo ang isang kandidato na sinungaling at magnanakaw. Kung ganun man sila, hayaan mo lang. Ang solusyon naman diyan ay huwag sila iboto. Kapag bumaba ka kasi sa lebel nila, wala lalo mangyayari.
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posted February 2, 2010 09:44AM
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Mahirap magparatang kung hindi pa napapatunayan. huwag maniwala sa sabisabi. Halimbawang may kandidato ka man. At nabigyan ka ng padulas sabi nga nila. Huwag below the belt ang pangbatikos sa isang kandidato. Ingat lang baka may mag init sa atin na kandidato at baka hanapin tayo at idemanda sa mga akusang hindi naman totoo. Halos lahat kasi nagsisinungaling.
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