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mas gusto mo ba na ang pastor or pari ng simbahan ay may pangit o magandang nakaraan? at bakit?

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posted November 19, 2011 11:47PM
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Aurelius Augustinus also known as “Saint Augustine of Hippo” (354-430A.D.), one of the most important Church fathers, at the age of sixteen fell into the pleasures, excesses, licentiousness and decadent socializing with fellow students. As a result, in 372 A.D., he lived in sin with a woman and had a son. After much convincing by his mother, he gave up this mistress, only to replace her with another concubine soon after. In the summer of 386A.D., he read “Life of Saint Anthony of the Desert”, he was greatly inspired and spiritually tormented. With much despair and crying, in August of that same year, after reading “Romans 13:13-14”, was convicted and converted to Christianity. Five years later (391 A.D.), he was ordained as a “priest” and in 395A.D., he was consecrated as a “Bishop”. People he greatly influenced through his writings and teachings were Thomas Aquinas, Martin Luther and John Calvin, to name a few.

Would you want this kind of person with such sinful background to be the “Pastor” or “Priest” of your church, if you had a choice?

I would be in favor of such a person to head my church, because a person with such experience would be able to empathize and understand the struggles of ordinary Christian. He would also be in a better position to help them get out of the sinful predicament that they are in compared to a “goody-goody” one. Conscience-stricken person under the bondage of sin, by hearing his testimony, would find hope and be encouraged to pursue holiness because their Pastor/Priest was able to overcome and be victorious. Because of the above reasons, I am absolutely in favor of such a person with similar background as Saint Augustine to become the Pastor/Priest of my church, if I had a choice. How about you? What’s your take on this?


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ano mas gusto mo? 

pastor or pari na may magandang nakaraan? or pastor or pari na may pangit na nakaraan bago nag bagong buhay bago naging pari/ pastor? 

at bakit??


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posted November 20, 2011 07:30AM
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The abiding, historic goal of all mystical thought and aspiration has been to know God, to attain unity and identification with the Deity. The passage below explains the evolution of God’s consciousness in man, the creation of God in the world of man's realities.

  • The creation of the perfect man can be accomplished solely by correspondence with evolution, which is the abiding law of life.
  • The law of evolution may be subdivided into-
  • The laws in the development of physical beauty and perfection.
  • The laws in the development of the higher morality.
  • The laws in the development of intellectual aspiration, and the realization of intellectual ideal.
  • The laws in the development of the spiritual principle in the direction of the perfect rest and the perfect activity in God.
  • To accomplish the end, of evolution in the physical order, it is necessary to transmute environment.
  • To accomplish the end of evolution in the moral order, it is necessary to transfigure conditions.
  • To accomplish the end of evolution in the intellectual order, it is necessary to derive illumination from the fontal source of light.
  • To accomplish the end of evolution in the spiritual order, it is necessary to know God,.
  • The true, certain and absolute knowledge of God is not, of faith; it is not to be distilled from the substance of things hope for construed out of the evidence of things not seen; it is the manifestation of divine subsistence of the sensation of the concealment  man, or . . . interior being. -  (Arthur Edward Waite, 1857-1942)

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posted November 20, 2011 07:55AM
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kahit ano.. di naman kasi perpekto ang tao eh..
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posted November 21, 2011 06:21AM
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Mas maganda sana kung ang pastor or pari ay maganda ang nakaraan. Without blemish, ika nga. Pero kung tulad nung example sa itaas, e OK lang din yun. Sabi nga ni Lord, kahit kasing dumi ka pa ng maruming basahan, papuputiin ka nya, sumama ka lang sa kanya. :)
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posted November 21, 2011 06:52AM
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mas okay po ang pari lalo na po't walang kamalian nagawa before, paero tao din po sila
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posted November 21, 2011 07:11AM
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me nakaraan man o wala, tao pa rin yan, madaling matukso kaya be on guard, makiramdam, i-discern ang mga acts nya
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posted November 21, 2011 07:30AM
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GomerMagtibay posted on November 21, 2011 06:21AM
Mas maganda sana kung ang pastor or pari ay maganda ang nakaraan. Without blemish, ika nga. Pero kung tulad nung example sa itaas, e OK lang din yun. Sabi nga ni Lord, kahit kasing dumi ka pa ng maruming basahan, papuputiin ka nya, sumama ka lang sa kanya. :)


Si Lord ba me sabi nun? kala ko si Vic Sotto sa comercial niya sa tide. peace he he

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posted November 21, 2011 07:36AM
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as long as he follows a straight path the moment he serves as a priest..... tao din naman pareho
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posted November 21, 2011 07:42AM
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Naalala ko nung nasa CFC ako lahat ng mga nag recruit sa amin nagsasabi na ako dating lasengo, dating sugarol, babae dito babae run (walang nagsabing nang lalaki na babae mas lalong walang umamin na lalaki na nang lalaki) Nung ako na ang magsasalita sabi ko di pa ako handa na sumali sa CFC kasi lugi naman ako di pa nagawa ng kalokohan nagbabago na he he he. 

Tayo importante sa atin na ang isang pari o pastor eh me desenteng buhay nuon at sa hinaharap ideal yun.  at kung ang nakaraan ay kasalanan ika nga maruming nakaraan ah tanggapin natin. Anyway sa simbahan katoliko (katoliko kasi ako) karamihan lalo na dito sa Maynila nagsisimba kahit sino ang pari.

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posted November 21, 2011 11:08AM
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Si Pablo isang manggangaral ng diyos ay may madilim ding nakaraan, pinapatay nya ang sinumang naniniwala, sumasamba at nangangaral kay kristo jesus bago sya tinawag ng ating panginoon. Kung ang isang tao na nakasumpong ng aral ng diyos at napagbago sya nito masasabi kong sya ay dumadaan sa tamang landas ng pagkaligtas, in the process ay makapagturo sya sa iba sapagkat alam nya kung ano ang mga kamaliang ito base sa kanyang karanasan at mga natutunan. Anomang kasalanan ay natatakpang ng mabubuting gawa at paghingi ng tawad at pagsisi.

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posted November 21, 2011 02:47PM
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Para sa akin, hindi mahalaga ang nakaraan ng isang lingkod g Diyos. Ang mahalaga ay ang kanyang kasalukuyan at ang kanyang kinabukasan. Lahat naman tayo makasalanan na, kapag tinanggap ang Panginoong Jesus bilang tagapagligtas, ay makakaranas ng pagpapawalang-sala. Wala na ang dati. Isa na siyang bagong nilalang.

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posted November 21, 2011 02:58PM
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ok lang nakaraan na nya yun ang importante nagbago... remember apostle pablo?


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posted November 21, 2011 03:11PM
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who am i to judge.if its GOD'S will so be it.

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posted November 21, 2011 03:20PM
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Goodness, righteousness, virtue, character, and love AND INANIMATE things cannot be created as a rock, or water, or a star, etc. By the very nature of goodness, virtue, etc., it requires TIME AND CIRCUMSTANCE to develop (or create, if you will) these things. And so God CREATES all that is needed to develop these virtuous traits of character and love.

Since any and every virtue that you can think of is the result of overcoming some form of evil, EVIL, therefore, becomes a very important ingredient in the development of virtue, character and love.

So when you have a past and that is evil and be converted later on, that will be a point that it does not matter what.

We have to overcome evil, all of us, even the priests or pastors, so it does not matter if they had a past.

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posted November 24, 2011 11:03AM
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i'd prefer yun second option.. may nakaraan bago nagbagong buhay kasi proven na syang matatag at kaya niya mga tmptations na unlike dun sa matino from the start eh hindi pa nasusubukan ng panahon..

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posted November 24, 2011 11:12AM
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I dont care as long as nagbalik loob sa ke God at nagbago naman..:)
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