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posted December 11, 2012 01:01PM
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The Bible says in eph 2:8,9 that people can be saved by God's grace through Faith

are you SAVE by your Faith?

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posted December 22, 2012 11:30PM
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Believe - John 3:16
Confess - Rom. 10:9-10
Baptize - Acts 10:47-48
......and you can be saved by the grace of God.
Eph.2:8-9
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posted December 22, 2012 11:43PM
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markanthony81 posted on December 11, 2012 02:01PM

The Bible says in eph 2:8,9 that people can be saved by God's grace through Faith

are you SAVE by your Faith?

Good evening!

what the Bible tell us in that verse is true.

but, don't be misled.

the Faith that is being mentioned here is not the faith that we, people, refer to as our religion.

but this is the Faith that will save you from eternal damnation.

this is the Faith referred to us Saving Faith.

this is not the Faith that will only come when we are in need and will only last when the needs are already fulfilled.

this is also not the kind of Faith that will remain a head belief.

but, this is the Faith that believes that God gave His only Son, Jesus Christ, to die on the cross for our sins. this is the Faith that accepts Jesus Christ as your Savior and the Lord of your life.


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posted December 23, 2012 09:00PM
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dione12 posted on December 23, 2012 12:43AM
markanthony81 posted on December 11, 2012 02:01PM

The Bible says in eph 2:8,9 that people can be saved by God's grace through Faith

are you SAVE by your Faith?

Good evening!

what the Bible tell us in that verse is true.

but, don't be misled.

the Faith that is being mentioned here is not the faith that we, people, refer to as our religion.

but this is the Faith that will save you from eternal damnation.

this is the Faith referred to us Saving Faith.

this is not the Faith that will only come when we are in need and will only last when the needs are already fulfilled.

this is also not the kind of Faith that will remain a head belief.

but, this is the Faith that believes that God gave His only Son, Jesus Christ, to die on the cross for our sins. this is the Faith that accepts Jesus Christ as your Savior and the Lord of your life.


how do you explain the book of james

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posted December 23, 2012 09:33PM
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markanthony81 posted on December 23, 2012 10:00PM
dione12 posted on December 23, 2012 12:43AM
markanthony81 posted on December 11, 2012 02:01PM

The Bible says in eph 2:8,9 that people can be saved by God's grace through Faith

are you SAVE by your Faith?

Good evening!

what the Bible tell us in that verse is true.

but, don't be misled.

the Faith that is being mentioned here is not the faith that we, people, refer to as our religion.

but this is the Faith that will save you from eternal damnation.

this is the Faith referred to us Saving Faith.

this is not the Faith that will only come when we are in need and will only last when the needs are already fulfilled.

this is also not the kind of Faith that will remain a head belief.

but, this is the Faith that believes that God gave His only Son, Jesus Christ, to die on the cross for our sins. this is the Faith that accepts Jesus Christ as your Savior and the Lord of your life.


how do you explain the book of james

which part of it?

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posted December 23, 2012 10:36PM
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dione12 posted on December 23, 2012 10:33PM
markanthony81 posted on December 23, 2012 10:00PM
dione12 posted on December 23, 2012 12:43AM
markanthony81 posted on December 11, 2012 02:01PM

The Bible says in eph 2:8,9 that people can be saved by God's grace through Faith

are you SAVE by your Faith?

Good evening!

what the Bible tell us in that verse is true.

but, don't be misled.

the Faith that is being mentioned here is not the faith that we, people, refer to as our religion.

but this is the Faith that will save you from eternal damnation.

this is the Faith referred to us Saving Faith.

this is not the Faith that will only come when we are in need and will only last when the needs are already fulfilled.

this is also not the kind of Faith that will remain a head belief.

but, this is the Faith that believes that God gave His only Son, Jesus Christ, to die on the cross for our sins. this is the Faith that accepts Jesus Christ as your Savior and the Lord of your life.


how do you explain the book of james

which part of it?


James 2:18

 

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posted December 23, 2012 10:52PM
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markanthony81 posted on December 23, 2012 11:36PM
dione12 posted on December 23, 2012 10:33PM
markanthony81 posted on December 23, 2012 10:00PM
dione12 posted on December 23, 2012 12:43AM
markanthony81 posted on December 11, 2012 02:01PM

The Bible says in eph 2:8,9 that people can be saved by God's grace through Faith

are you SAVE by your Faith?

Good evening!

what the Bible tell us in that verse is true.

but, don't be misled.

the Faith that is being mentioned here is not the faith that we, people, refer to as our religion.

but this is the Faith that will save you from eternal damnation.

this is the Faith referred to us Saving Faith.

this is not the Faith that will only come when we are in need and will only last when the needs are already fulfilled.

this is also not the kind of Faith that will remain a head belief.

but, this is the Faith that believes that God gave His only Son, Jesus Christ, to die on the cross for our sins. this is the Faith that accepts Jesus Christ as your Savior and the Lord of your life.


how do you explain the book of james

which part of it?


James 2:18

 

"But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works" - James 2:18 (ESV)

okay... this is how it goes... Works (meaning good deeds) is dead without faith, and Faith (the one I mentioned that saves you from eternal damnation) is dead without good works. They go hand in hand.

this gives us this equation:

faith + good works = salvation

good works are simply the result of the faith that you have in Jesus Christ (because He is now your Lord and Savior).

if we keep on doing good works (e.g. going to church, giving to the poor, helping the needy, being tactful) and don't have that relationship with the Lord to bring him glory by your deeds, it becomes useless and futile.

we are all created in this world for one reason, and that is to please God. for us to be able to do that, we must have that special kind of relationship that can only be offered by Jesus Christ when he died on the cross for our sins. and the key to receiving that gift from Jesus is the saving faith. when we have that relationship with Jesus Christ, and our faith is established in Him, the Holy Spirit of God now dwells in us and brings out these fruits for good works: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. (Galatians 5:22-23) 

now, if you'll look at it, the fruits of the Spirit can only be manifested by doing good works. that is why, if you only have faith and no good deeds, it is still useless. without good deeds, it will only mean that your relationship with Jesus Christ is invalid.

always remember: Faith first, then good deeds.

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posted December 24, 2012 05:08AM
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faith + good works = salvation

how we can reconcile a devout, religious man name Cornelius needed baptism in Act 10 ?
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posted December 24, 2012 09:49AM
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Idel25 posted on December 24, 2012 06:08AM
faith + good works = salvation

how we can reconcile a devout, religious man name Cornelius needed baptism in Act 10 ?

"1 At Caesarea there was a man named Cornelius, a centurion in what was known as the Italian Regiment. 2 He and all his family were devout and God-fearing; he gave generously to those in need and prayed to God regularly. 3 One day at about three in the afternoon he had a vision. He distinctly saw an angel of God, who came to him and said, 'Cornelius!'

4 Cornelius stared at him in fear. 'What is it, Lord?' he asked.

The angel answered, 'Your prayers and gifts to the poor have come up as a memorial offering before God. 5 Now send men to Joppa to bring back a man named Simon who is called Peter. 6 He is staying with Simon the tanner, whose house is by the sea.'" - Acts 10: 1-5

okay...

having a close and personal relationship with Jesus Christ (where you accept Him as your Lord and Saviour) is actually enough for you to be saved. and from there, you manifest the fruits of the Spirit which I mentioned on my last post.

in the case of  Cornelius, it was really no question that he is a faithful, religious and God was very pleased. you see, way back in the times of the disciples of Christ (after Christ's ascension to heaven), long ago in Israel, Jews and Gentiles (this is what the Jews call people when you are not a jew. i.e. we Filipinos are considered Gentiles 'cause we are not Jews) are not to associate with each other. Jews consider Gentiles as unclean (since Jews are the chosen people of God through Abraham). but, with the given vision of Peter from God, God wanted to show Peter that He really don't care whether you are a Jew or a Gentile. He still loves you.

Now, going back to Cornelius, God showed favor towards Cornelius. it was really enough for Cornelius to be saved with the faith and the good deeds that he has been doing. the reason why Cornelius needed a baptism? simple, God wanted Cornelius "certified" as His own. When you decide to be baptised, there are important transformation that you have to understand:

1. Baptism signifies that you have fully decided to follow Jesus Christ all the days of your life. You want to follow His will, His teachings, His ways...everything that Jesus do. you decide to follow it. now, that sounds very heavy right? and we all know that none is perfect, only Gos is. but, there is always supplication. (i won;t touch on this matter since it will take another topic)

2. Baptism is a way of manifesting your full commitment to Jesus Christ. by doing it, you tell the world you are following Jesus's footsteps.

So, God asked Peter to come to Cornelius' house to baptize him all because it was the will of God for Cornelius to be a part of the great family of God. it was also a way of Cornelius' declaration of his faith to the world.

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posted December 24, 2012 04:00PM
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Mam dione12 - Tks for the explanation...however, there's some accounts in the bible saying baptism is a commandment.

Matt. 28:19 and Mark 16:15-16. I cannot find any account from the bible that will say we will be save by faith alone.
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posted December 24, 2012 04:05PM
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Idel25 posted on December 24, 2012 05:00PM
Mam dione12 - Tks for the explanation...however, there's some accounts in the bible saying baptism is a commandment.

Matt. 28:19 and Mark 16:15-16. I cannot find any account from the bible that will say we will be save by faith alone.

just want to clarify, are you pertaining to the verses you've mentioned as the accounts that says that faith can not save you alone but you must be baptized?




Message appended on December 24, 2012 05:07PM
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for your clarification, i found this article in net...
kindly read it...
it will help.=) if you have questions, just ask. =)

http://carm.org/is-baptism-necessary-salvation

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posted December 24, 2012 04:29PM
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Thank you so much...My bible says :

Matt 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son,
and of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 2:38,41,47 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus
Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost........

Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them
about three thousand souls......

Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as
should be saved.

Lastly...

Mark 16:15-16 15 - And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
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posted December 25, 2012 11:32PM
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Idel25 posted on December 24, 2012 05:29PM
Thank you so much...My bible says :

Matt 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son,
and of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 2:38,41,47 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus
Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost........

Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them
about three thousand souls......

Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as
should be saved.

Lastly...

Mark 16:15-16 15 - And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned
 
in those verses right after they believe they were baptized because the people understood the word of God but Faith comes first then the conviction of those who believes in the Gospel regarding baptism follows
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posted December 25, 2012 11:34PM
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you're saved because you accepted God's gift as your savior.

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posted December 25, 2012 11:50PM
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Intelenet posted on December 26, 2012 12:34AM
you're saved because you accepted God's gift as your savior.


yes that's right... 1 john 5:13

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posted December 27, 2012 12:42AM
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Hi Mark at mga Kapatid - Tama po kayo...wala akong nakikitang pagkakamali sa faith, gift of God etc...
Tama din po yung nasa 1 John 5:13....@ Mark - try mong basahin yung background..akyat ka pa ng konti.

1 John 5:6-8

Quote:

This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Unquote

May 3 Tinatalakay dito na dapat mag agree....1. Spirit, 2. Water and 3. Blood

Tulad ng pag agree ng Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

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posted December 27, 2012 10:36AM
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being saved is just the 1st step. understanding your purpose and making it happen is next.

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posted December 27, 2012 11:14AM
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faith with out action is dead.period....

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posted December 27, 2012 02:28PM
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repairman1018 posted on December 27, 2012 12:14PM
faith with out action is dead.period....


Agree...according sa book of James.

Question ?  Can one be wrong in his  faith or beliefs ? 

Ex...The belief that the world was flat – correct or wrong ?  The belief that man came from the apes ? Or the faith of Saul when he      

persecuted the Christians ( before becoming Paul ) ?

 

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posted December 27, 2012 02:41PM
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Idel25 posted on December 27, 2012 03:28PM
repairman1018 posted on December 27, 2012 12:14PM
faith with out action is dead.period....


Agree...according sa book of James.

Question ?  Can one be wrong in his  faith or beliefs ? 

Ex...The belief that the world was flat – correct or wrong ?  The belief that man came from the apes ? Or the faith of Saul when he      

persecuted the Christians ( before becoming Paul ) ?

 

tinanggal ko na... emoticon


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posted December 27, 2012 02:49PM
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dione12 posted on December 27, 2012 03:41PM
Idel25 posted on December 27, 2012 03:28PM
repairman1018 posted on December 27, 2012 12:14PM
faith with out action is dead.period....


Agree...according sa book of James.

Question ?  Can one be wrong in his  faith or beliefs ? 

Ex...The belief that the world was flat – correct or wrong ?  The belief that man came from the apes ? Or the faith of Saul when he      

persecuted the Christians ( before becoming Paul ) ?

 

yup...


Hmmmmm.......

 


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